Out of the Blue Kennels

So what is a Pit Bull?

A Pit bull is a type of dog that has descended from England, Ireland and Scotland. The crossing of the tenacious terriers and powerful bulldogs of England led to what we today call a Pit bull. Pit bulls were originally bred to fight other animals and other dogs in a pit for bloodsport. This practice still illegaly goes on today but is shunned by the vast majority of Pit bull owners. "Pit" for area they fought in and "Bull" for the crossing of the bulldog. Contrary to popular belief Pit bulls are not people aggressive dogs. In fact they are not the best choice for a guard dog. The reason for their extreme affection towards people comes right out of there past. During a dog fight owners must be able to retrieve their dog with out being bit. Any dog that bites it's owner didn't make it to breeding season so any human aggression was bred away.   

Although there is a breed of dog called the American Pit Bull Terrier it is not the only type in the pit bull family. Many breeds descend from pit fighting heritage including English Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Bull Terrier. The newest type is the American Bully. This type of Pit bull is usually registered as American Pit Bull Terriers, and really they are. The American Bully is a cross of American Pit Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers. The only difference between these breeds is that the Amstaff is the show version of the American Pit Bull Terrier. So really it's the same dog. The American Bully type Pit bull was created for looks first. Most bully Pit bulls get along with other animals and still have all the amazing characteristics of it's pit bull legacy.

Pitbulls all look so different because owners like so many different kinds. Some people like tall pits some like short. Some like big some like small. Some like red nose dogs and some like blue. No matter the name or the look they are all Pit Bulls.

More than not people tell me what a bad reputation Pit bulls have but they personaly know them to be very noble dogs.  Yes Pit Bulls look very tuff and yes if they had to they could defend themselves. But so could a cow or a deer but they don't look tuff so their reputations don't suffer. It does take a very responsible person to own a Pit bull or any dog for that matter. My dogs are very dog and people friendly and in 8 years they have never shown aggression much less bit a person. The truth is Pit Bulls are one of the most friendly breeds of dogs. 

This is the TRUTH about Pit Bulls from my kennel and the kids they love and protect. Nothing but LOVE!!!!

American Pit Bull Terrier VS. American Bully and Crosses

The American Bully is not a seperate breed from the American Pit Bull Terrier. The American Bully is however a different type of Pit Bull. The American Pit Bull Terrier has a set standard or desired physical body type that each member of the breed strives to meet. You will almost never find an animal that will meet the ideal breed standard in every way. 

The American Bully type of Pit Bull is one of the farthest off the mark of ADBA or UKC standards that there is but to argue they are not true Pit Bulls is certainly not true. Pit Bulls are not the only breed of dogs to have this difference. Many breeds are considered to be the same breed of dogs even though physically they are very different. There are huge Standard Poodles and Miniature Poodles, long and short haired Chiuauas and many many others. 

The American Bully type of Pit Bull is a version of a Pit Bull that has exagerated features and is bred for style over performance. There is a nice medium level of Pit Bull that are not quite overdone and not too scrawny either. These Bully Pit Bull Terriers display a good 50/50 Bully and Terrier look.

The real issue that many Pit Bull enthusiets have is the crossing of non-Pit Bull breeds with Pits and still passing them off as Pure Pit Bulls. Not every Bully Pit Bull you see was crossed with a bulldog or Mastiff but some are. I Personally like all Pits crossed or not but it has gotten a little out of hand. I found my self laughing at some of the cute yet obviously tainted Pit Bull crosses being pushed as American Bullies at a rescent bully show. I do like how interesting their flat faces and fat bodies are but come on some of these are obvious crosses.

Razor's Edge Blood lines never intended to have Pits come out looking like pig dogs but some how some other lines (not really True Razor's Edge breeders) have been producing this warped version of a Pit. I'm not coming down on the pig dog bullies, in fact I like them.

I like a shorter bullier Pit Bull but does it have to have almost no muzzle and be fat too? I believe people should buy and produce any type of Pit Bull they choose. By calling these exagerated Pit Bulls, American Bullies, maybe it will settle the any conflicts Pit Bull breeders have. The only Problem now is that bully style Pit Bull breeders like my self that have nothing but Pit Bull blood in their lines may be grouped into this American Bully cross category. I never cross non Pit bull breeds in my lines. 

It may come down to people being breedests. Breedests can't see that all dogs are dogs first and these titles we humans give them are nothing more than a gene that has been turned on or off. They're all the same thing, dogs.  

My mission is to keep my line bully but not go over board and lose the whole Pit Bull look in favor of an extreme fat Bulldog look.

Update 1-9-09

I got a email from a person who has a problem with Razor's Edge.  

TheDate: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:41 PM
Question/comment: Razors Edge founder admitted to cross breeding Pitbulls with
other breeds so you are technically lying when you say that your Pitbulls are in
fact Pitbulls. The Razors Edge dogs are "American Bullys" not
Pitbulls. The big beefy dog is NOT an American Pitbull Terrier but an unhealthy
cross. 

Well thanks for calling me a liar but it's a little more complicated than that. I don't know if you have read the entire interview that Dave Wilson (part founder of Razor's Edge Bloodline) but he says that yes he has used different breeds to develop his bloodline.

When he said this he was referring to the American Staffordshire Terrier being crossed with American Pit Bull Terrier. Both of these "breeds" are the same thing if you read up on their history. Pit bull is a general term for pit fighting dogs. It's just that recently that know it all game dog people think that Pit bulls only come from dogs bred from awful looking scrawny game dogs that came from some dogs they know about. The country is a huge place and people from all over breed dogs differently. Depending on where you get your American Bully really depends on how pure it's pit bull blood is. My dogs are not non pit bull crosses although yes some out there are. Not many are though and those breeders are discredited. This whole pure Pit Bull thing is so recent anyways. Before everyone had the internet people just bred their dogs how they wanted to. I don't think many game bred dogs are good representations of a pit bull. Many game lines (not all) are the reason Pits get a bad name. I do have game line dogs (not on my site) and they're great but they can't hold a candle to my razor's edge dogs as far as looks go and that's ok by me because Game dogs are bred to work and Razor's Edge are bred to show.

   You can contribute all the positive outlooks people have about pit bulls over the recent years to blood lines like razor's edge. All the bully shows welcome all bloodlines and focus on showing the public that Pit Bulls are not the monsters they are portrayed as. So thank Dave Wilson and other Razor's Edge breeders for changing public opinion to positive and keeping bsl laws at bay. 

The American Bully name was just started because some people wanted to get away from the pit bull name stigma. I'm proud of the Pit Bull name. If any thing Razor's Edge dogs complement the original Pit Bulls the Staffy (Staffordshire Bull Terrier) from England. Pit Dogs are very different from breeder to breeder. Just because two breeders Pits look very different doesn't mean one is breeding non pit dogs. Any dog breeder can tell you how dramatically Dog breeds can change just over a few generations. That's why 1 standard is so hard to acheive. I've seen it first hand and because of specific ways of breeding you can develop very unique looks over only a few generations. Hey I'm the first to smirk at some Pitbull dogs for being too fat but that doesn't take away from what the Pit Bull is. My Razor's Edge dogs easily at the least trace back to Throwin Knuckles and Cairo two Am staffs that really set the way for Razor's Edge.

I hope you can be a little more open minded and relize that NO ONE is the authority on Pit bull purity. The best we can all do is research pedigrees and learn about the history of this great breed. The funny thing is that the ADBA and UKC have pics of my dogs and they register them as American Pitbull Terriers. I think they know what they're doing.

Thanks and have a good one.

Out Of The Blue Kennels      

The Pocket Pit Bull.

The Pocket Pit Bull has been an internet debate for years. Does a small or miniature version of a pitbull exist? Well not officialy. I have seen these unofficial pocket pits in person and yes they do exist. The Pocket Pit Bull is just a smaller version of a pitbull ranging from 20 to 30lbs. They are usually true runts but some breeders now are going for that very small look. I have aquiered a 40lbs male that will be bred to smaller females to produce Staffordshire Bull Terrier size pits or smaller (french bull dog size). These small Pits are very hard to find but out of the blue kennels will produce them. The pocket Bully is a type on the ABKC website.